tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post2167156592988308833..comments2008-02-16T01:43:32.399-05:00fix buffalohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01098871938531527101noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-17694538410439547922008-02-16T01:43:00.000-05:002008-02-16T01:43:00.000-05:002008-02-16T01:43:00.000-05:00

1572 Jefferson is a gem, I remember when David took me through it one time. Using one's imagination can be interesting. Reminds me of a lot of modest houses in older residential sections of Toronto, only there they sell for almost $1million+ These brick houses were built to stand the test of time and with the right TLC could be renovated into awesome places to live.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-21227583385062236052008-02-08T16:16:00.000-05:002008-02-08T16:16:00.000-05:002008-02-08T16:16:00.000-05:00

First we plowed over the near east side in hope of renewal and got nothing but a scattering of low income projects.Then we went and plowed over a vibrant near west in hope of renewal and never got anything of value but more projects, and finally 40 years later the Health Now building. Yet we continue to demolish with no overall plan. Steel is right on with his preservation insight about Buffalo.

MJhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09439180743105167324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-35023871501082981942008-02-07T14:03:00.000-05:002008-02-07T14:03:00.000-05:002008-02-07T14:03:00.000-05:00

whywhywhywhyYou talk about the Preservation Coalition as if they are some paid staff someplace not doing their job. They are simply concerned citizens who volunteer their own time in an attempt to save Buffalo's precious and quickly dwindling heritage. So ask where they are on important preservation issues is the same as saying where were you and other's on these issues. These preservation

STEELnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-62252430433895928842008-02-07T07:29:00.000-05:002008-02-07T07:29:00.000-05:002008-02-07T07:29:00.000-05:00

Wow. 1572 Jefferson very nice tons of potential. Doesnt look too far gone and people in surrounding homes seem to care. Very sad if this one goes.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-19121731954707262072008-02-07T00:13:00.000-05:002008-02-07T00:13:00.000-05:002008-02-07T00:13:00.000-05:00

do you know the approximate square footage of this building and its lot size? is there any sort of parking lot or driveway? does the zoning allow for retail?

billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-11859683823660049462008-02-06T23:47:00.000-05:002008-02-06T23:47:00.000-05:002008-02-06T23:47:00.000-05:00

david, i have cash. i have saved several bungalows and a commercial building in st. petersburg, florida, from demolition. i have fought slumlords over the years. i have no intention of turning into one. the very high cost of florida real estate these days along with the disappearing possibility of finding private insurance are causing me to look in other areas of the country.i realize that

billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-19381306776787908802008-02-06T23:39:00.000-05:002008-02-06T23:39:00.000-05:002008-02-06T23:39:00.000-05:00

Bill...I'm not clear on what it would take to purchase 1325 Michigan from the current owner. She's in Housing Court and according to the clerk I spoke to this morning an agreement has been reached about the demolition. This of course means that she's agreed to spend money to have the building demolished. So...I'm assuming if someone were to take over the 'liability' this property presents to

fix buffalohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01098871938531527101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-47244519140838928072008-02-06T23:32:00.000-05:002008-02-06T23:32:00.000-05:002008-02-06T23:32:00.000-05:00

i am very interested in this building. do you have any idea how much the owner wants for this building? i live in florida, and i am an ardent preservationist. 1325 michigan is a charmer!!!

billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-64047586145082177402008-02-06T23:22:00.000-05:002008-02-06T23:22:00.000-05:002008-02-06T23:22:00.000-05:00

Steel,Your initial comment was unfair and anonymous 1 was right to call you on it. I don't generally agree with people who bash you and WCP for not living here, but it's not fair to make broad generalizations when you're not even here on the front lines.People do care, but they are disorganized and overwhelmed. But I do have a question. Where the f&%k are the so-called Preservation Non-Profits

whywhywhynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-13446365237745295172008-02-06T18:43:00.000-05:002008-02-06T18:43:00.000-05:002008-02-06T18:43:00.000-05:00

Nsphere...The south side of the building appears to be in rough shape but it's my understanding that what you're referring to is actually part of a different building, one that was mostly demolished years ago.Very much agreed about the practicability and the triage approach that's needed.

fix buffalohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01098871938531527101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-8649647128936608982008-02-06T16:51:00.000-05:002008-02-06T16:51:00.000-05:002008-02-06T16:51:00.000-05:00

I think that we need to be cognizant of what we have and preserve what we can, but 1610 Main needs to come down. I noticed you didn't show the side of the building with the knocked down wall and exposed insulation among other things. That building is dangerous. I admire preserving what we can, but a practical approach needs to be taken as well. Demolition is not alway a bad thing. The now shovel

NSpherenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-37316293013345165482008-02-06T14:49:00.000-05:002008-02-06T14:49:00.000-05:002008-02-06T14:49:00.000-05:00

Unfortunately, I agree with Steel.Buffalo seems like a city determined to destroy itself. Sure these buildings are in sad shape but they weren't always. And then the celebrating that occurs (via blog comments for all those are worth) when one of them is demolished. Wow.signed, Jefferson.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-9158943583571440602008-02-06T13:42:00.000-05:002008-02-06T13:42:00.000-05:002008-02-06T13:42:00.000-05:00

Housing Court didn't happen this morning. 1325 Michigan is adjourned 'till 2/27 at 9:30am.If anyone here is interested in acquiring 1325 Michigan, let me know. Time is of the essence.

fix buffalohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01098871938531527101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-62465367244131040652008-02-06T13:07:00.000-05:002008-02-06T13:07:00.000-05:002008-02-06T13:07:00.000-05:00

If most people did care about their historic buildings we would see a whole different approach to their reuse, to the demolition process, to the penalties on slumlord owners etc. For every one building we do get saved (usually only temporarily) 5 more are coming down. It is just a matter of time before those on main get the wrecking ball, just like the Verner Building, just like HO Oats, just

sbrofnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-69017182872529933712008-02-06T13:03:00.000-05:002008-02-06T13:03:00.000-05:002008-02-06T13:03:00.000-05:00

The sad truth is STEEL is right on this. It is like pulling teeth to get most people around here to even consider an old building should be reused.Even by those people who see the results next door (workers at Zepto) still think they should just tear down their mansion and building something nice.. like the smart pill building across the street...and no I am not exagerating. I have unfortunately

sbrofnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-4955046345943479062008-02-06T11:16:00.000-05:002008-02-06T11:16:00.000-05:002008-02-06T11:16:00.000-05:00

I have photos of 1572 Jefferson on Flickr. It's a great house; looks like the back "addition" was actually original to the house. There were four houses built as a set, only three remain, soon to be two.

Erichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17091784578335910727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-71307549204586177492008-02-06T00:39:00.000-05:002008-02-06T00:39:00.000-05:002008-02-06T00:39:00.000-05:00

Anonymous #1The few who recognize the importance of these buildings (you apparently being one) are heavily out numbered by those who don't give a damn. The evidence is overwhelming to that fact. To most in WNY these buildings represent only crime. Their history is irrelevant. I nice brand new powder blue vinyl clad building as a replacement would be a welcome sight to many unfortunately.By

STEELnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-44024744077548880842008-02-05T22:56:00.000-05:002008-02-05T22:56:00.000-05:002008-02-05T22:56:00.000-05:00

It was more likely built in the 1880's or 90's judging from the style. It is very similar in massing and details to a large collection built by one developer, the Caudell family. The one I used to own had signatures from the painter and the staircase builder dated fall 1883 and early 1884.To read city assessment records, you'd think that about 50% of our housing stock was built in either 1900

oldtimeconstructionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-38393265611496984222008-02-05T21:01:00.000-05:002008-02-05T21:01:00.000-05:002008-02-05T21:01:00.000-05:00

1572 Jefferson was built in 1900 according to the property information on the city's website.

George Thomas Apfelhttp://gapfel.com/eriecanalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-61534794472293758162008-02-05T13:22:00.000-05:002008-02-05T13:22:00.000-05:002008-02-05T13:22:00.000-05:00

how old is 1572 jefferson? i dont recall ever seeing it, wonder what its former use was. And didnt the building near auto zone have one or two similar neighboring structures that were recently torn down (since 2000)?

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-75031773294430668872008-02-05T11:43:00.000-05:002008-02-05T11:43:00.000-05:002008-02-05T11:43:00.000-05:00

Steel, I agree with you most of the time, but lay off the generalizations or I'm going to have to tear into you about preaching about Buffalo while living in Chicago. We are not all the backwards yokels you would have people believe. Some of us stayed or returned here and are fighting to make a difference. I, for one, can only live in one 1800s brick building. We could use some help, not

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8584846.post-14879686958660626052008-02-05T10:52:00.000-05:002008-02-05T10:52:00.000-05:002008-02-05T10:52:00.000-05:00

unfortunately the people of Buffalo and WNY have no interest in their history and are in a rush to eliminate it in an effort to reach the lowest common denominator.

STEELnoreply@blogger.com